Friday, August 8, 2008

Crocodile Tears Of A Clown


Congratulations! You have now entered the circus and here is the clown. The latest addition of Coffee Talk has brought in a leader of flying monkeys, Bill Marzelli to speak candidly about what he thinks of the Regional Task Force on Casino Impacts and its chairman, Nancy Yeatts. The exchange is telling. To avoid the entire low rated gabfest go right to this specific conversation by clicking here. After the main body of conversation which had lies, untruths and gross exaggerations. Bozo decides to make devil's advocate light and states the following when asked if he was on Billy's side after his gross assumptions that Ms. Yeatts a dictator:

"I am, (laughter in the background) I might have phrased it a little differently. (More laughter)"

This coming from a man who only a few months ago was so bored at not being chairman of the BOS he would rest with is feet stretched out, chair leaning back, palm in cheek to rest his head and wait for his cell phone to ring just so he can answer it during a BOS meeting. He loves being chairman now. Like a pig in slop. But he can't even get his Bingo Resort Advisory Committee to get a quorum either.

How would you phrase it, Bozo? Like you have in the past with slick legalese or start comparing Ms. Yeatts as some jack booted brown shirt with a little mustache. He won't dare say it, cause he knows he'll get in trouble. His foot is always inches away from his pie hole. But you know he thinks it.

Neither Bond nor Marzelli know what they are talking about when it comes to outside their circus ring called Middleboro. Pompous clowns.

Thank you Wally and Mikey for the wonderful photo. Larty, darty, clowns like to party :D

41 comments:

Anonymous said...

That show was the poorest one yet. It lacked substance and facts and clearly went downhill from the beginning. That's an hour and a half I won't get back! To call Ms. Yeatts a dictator after the way the Middleboro Selectmen behaved was unbecoming of Mr. Marzelli. Even the discussion about the mortgage crisis was inaccurate. It would seem if a radio show host is paying for the air time that he might research an issue before he looks like an uninformed clown. My bad! That never stopped him before. He still hasn't figured out that some voters have long memories and remember being compared to Nazis for their casino opposition or that he is mostly responsible for the division within the town because he's incapable of leading. Oh, well! He'll be gone before the casino doesn't come! And his show gets how many calls?

carverchick said...

nazis...dictators...whatever. Once again, they have shown that they have no real argument for why a casino is good for the community. Sour grapes because (horror of all horrors) Nancy did to Middleboro EXACTLY what Middleboro did to other towns from day one -- exclude them! Gee, maybe if the BoS hadn't been so quick to sign an agreement that required them to work on behalf of the tribe, the RTF would have considered giving them a seat. Do as I say, not as I do must be the Middleboro BoS motto....God freaking forbid the other Towns deny Middleboro a seat at the table...where was OUR seat during the negotiations with the Tribe...oh riiiight, we didn't have one. Boo freakin hoo...get over it. Nancy Yeats has done an excellent job with the RTF and I commend her for her strength and perseverance.

The RTF losing strength? Hardly! Has anyone heard of VACATION. My goodness, how dare selectmen take vacation with their families during the summer! This is just another tactic to try and discredit the voice that the surrounding communities have in the LIT process. Nancy is not a dictator...she is a select(wo)man from Lakeville who refuses to take any of the "casinos are good" BS that Middleboro has to offer. It is the only thing they have to offer because their contract with the Tribe doesn't allow them anything else.

As far as her singlehandedly writing a letter and telling everyone else to sign...a bunch of BULL SHIT...yeah, Bill, BULL SHIT. I was at the meeting when the letter was written (and YOU were not there) and I can say that it was a community effort...but hey, I can understand why you don't get it....what the hell do you or Adam or any of the FM's know about community? Nothing...you proved that to all of us last year.

Gladys Kravitz said...

Wait a minute, is this the same Bill Marzilli who was on the TV news the day of the Town Meeting, under a tent, screaming explitives and pointing his finger at an anti-casino person?

I've never seen him at even one RTF meeting, and the meetings aren't televised. So how exactly is he reaching the conclusion that Ms. Yeatts is some sort of a 'dictator'?

I do go to those meetings. Ms. Yeatts and the other selectman have always presented themselves with dignity and professionalism. There is a lettr being drafted, but it was created with input from all RTF members.

The RTF has always been a breath of fresh democratic air after spending my summer in the company of Middleboro's "leadership". My opinion of that is well documented.

As for Mr. Bond's part in the interview, chuckling at BM's strong descriptions of Ms. Yeatts - acting as if he himself would never be caught saying such things...

...well, no of course not. He happily allows other people to do his dirty work.

Like having someone else send out his little 'show-me-some-support' letter last year, or, not long ago, bringing a thug who'd threatened me with violence onto his radio show, no doubt hoping to intimidate me and others bloggers whose opinion he doesn't like. And now, rolling out his excitable friend to diss the RTF...

Yeah. OK. Cry me a river.

Gladys Kravitz said...

Wait a minute - I just listened to the short sound byte again...

...did I hear this correctly???

"If Nancy Yeatts is looking for a fair and honest discussion about the benefits or detriments of casino gambling in Middleboro, you wouldn't get a straight answer from her..."

Whaaaaaaaa?????????????????

When was there ever a fair and honest discussion about the benefits or detriments of casino gambling in Middleboro?? And when were people from surrounding towns invited to join it?

And for the record, seven towns have voted to oppose a casino - so they don't have to sit on a task force and pretend they're just there to wait for a mitigation crumb to trickle down to their towns after suffering the impacts.

And Pat "Tankman" Rogers?? What value could he possibly add to any discussion. Pa-leeze. He sat like a mushroom through most meetings. He had more to say about dog complaints than he ever did about a casino.

And I was there.

Anonymous said...

Wait a minute!!! Now I will tell you something that most "townies" of Middleboro have forgotten, and the new upcomming political carpet bagger does not know because I know he wasn't told as all the other "new commers" to our town. Marzelli ran for selectman when our town was mostly ALL townies. He was trounced and by the first woman selectman Middleboro had. Mrs. Kilpatrick from South Middleboro, won big time. He even went door to door to talk about issues & to answer any questions, (he cam to my familes house), they might have, apparently even then he was NOT AN IMPRESSIVE person!! He lost!!
Now, second part of his legacy: the first time, again, when town was mostly "townies" his name was (how do you say it), put up for membership in the Elks Lodge. HE WAS BLACK BALLED! Yes it was many yrs. ago, but now do you realize why he makes such close friendships w/NEW PEOPLE in town!! He hasen't learned anything, you shouldn't be judging others when some,(townies w/memories), can judge you by what you have already done!! I remember your repatation was known around town as a "blowhard" don't keep proving them right!!

Anonymous said...

I had the misfortune of wasting time listening to CST on Thursday because I was in the car and driving.
Mr. Marzelli's comments were rude and uninformed. To compare Nancy Yeatts to a dictator is consistent with Mr. Bond comparing opponents to Nazis or racists.
Mr. Bond has refrained from getting on his soapbox and pontificating during Selectmen's Meetings recently about the casino, but all good things must end. Now instead, he seems intent on reverting to his attack and smear campaign or at least tolerating it on his new platform, for which he is paying for airtime. I truly hope it's worth it to you Mr. Bond.
The rest of the program was a waste to listen to as well. That's why I stopped listening to AM talk radio years ago. Wasted time! But at least we know where the arrogant leadership of Middleboro stands. It's time for voters to elect people with brains.

Anonymous said...

Thanks Townie for confirming my opinion! How about Mr. Marzelli sending letters to his tenants last year telling them that if the casino wasn't approved, their rents would go up? Didn't anyone notice all of Marzelli's tenants at every single casino meeting? Didn't anyone wonder why? And how about him doing the same with the Recall Election by telling them how to vote? Some snakes never change I guess. But insulting Ms. Yeatts was over the top.

Anonymous said...

Big city slickers don't understand that the 'boro t'aint so big that folks dont share tails. Mr. Big City confides his criticism of others as youre friend. Then, he goes to others and share critizism of you. An attorny who cant shut his mouth? Burnt the bridges long afore the casino. Loyalty? Taint in his book! He's smarter than you and dont forget it. He just doesnt know how long the 'boro memory is. He and wifey were forced to live among the rifraf and bring culcha to the savages. Aint we glad?

Anonymous said...

OMG! I just can't believe Marzelli was stupid enough to make a comment like that in public. In casual conversation among friends in your own home where it isn't recorded for all to hear is one thing. The Regional Task Force, IMO was right in keeping Middleboro out of the group. Could you even imagine if Bondo was on there? He'd monopolize the conversation, pervert any discussion about the impacts and defend the casino because that's the deal he negotiated.

Anonymous said...

Thanks for the background on Mr. Marzelli. Helps give me a new perspective on the continuing events surrounding the casino. Obviously the intimidation strategy isn't proving as effective for him as he hoped. Frankly surprised that Mr. Bond would wish to publicly associate himself with such a questionable character.

Anonymous said...

How could I forget about those letters!! I heard about them at his local bar!! Yup! on his own territory, (he thinks). Even some of the regulars thought that was playing "unfair" w/the tenants. NOW that "he" started this, (I held back w/this info.), my friend, one of his unfortunate tenants, was offered $20 whole dollars to hold a pro-casino sign at the rotary last summer. NOW he learns how to buy votes. Good thing he didn't own any apt. houses when he ran for selectman, oh wait, is Spataro running again??

He would be wise to leave honest, working for their towns best interest, politicians alone!(unlike you know who). I know plenty of other townies w/Marzelli stories that "ain't" gossip, there is documentation to be had!

Anonymous said...

I was reading this and thinking about Mr. Marzelli's tenant who had all of those wild animals and the apartment reeked. Does anyone remember the details? And at the same time, I was watching the Board of Clowns, acting as the Board of Health. My God! When will this town wake up and insist that people with brains sit on any board? And when will they wake up and separate the Selectmen from the Board of Health? I know this forum was intended for other reasons, but I have frequent business with the town and would like a place to post my comments about the ignorance of the Selectmen. I'm frankly embarassed by their conduct, their questions and their ignorance. Could someone consider entries or a forum for 2 things 1. to post valid comments about what is transpiring with the selectmen 2. to post comments about the trash on topix - not to post venomous counterattacks, but to post factual information that is being shouted out? I just went on TOXIC today and am disappointed by those whose comments I recognize who are posting manure.

Carl said...

Thank you for all your comments and information on the "toxic" nature of what has happened to Middleborough. Rockland Industries isn't the only contaminated site around here. I hope we can clean up the mess made by some of these people before things get worse. TOPIX has no real readership. They choke on their own vomit in most cases. They love reading and quoting us, because our voice matters. What they say is so paper tiger. They only expose who they are. Thaks you all.

Anonymous said...

cdp, youre words and participation in the issues in the 'boro are apreciated more than you know. Mr. Bond has deliberately worked to divide the town because he is incapable of leadership. Some men rise to great heights when confronted with the opportunity to lead. Mr. Bond is wallowing in the gutter sorry to say.

Anonymous said...

What I see in Mr. Marzelli is a big mouthed, narrow-minded bully who is intolerant of anyone who disagrees with him and is incapable of discussing any issue. His presence on a radio program of this sort has been disappointing because of his superficial comments, but then, it is consistent with the host's point of view. To hear the host's wife's snickers in the background was equally disappointing. A small, insular group of people have schemed to attack others. Maybe their efforts would be more productive if diverted to positive things.

Anonymous said...

I thought Mr. Bond might have finally grown up. His conduct as chairman, initially at least, seemed to improve, but he quickly returned to the cellphone and cigarette breaks. He clearly has little interest in the meetings and were it not for his aspirations, wouldn't bother. That his snarky wife is on the radio would seem to make her fair game for criticism since she has felt vicious attacks as anonymous posters is acceptable. For someone whose claim to fame is having been a nanny, her superiority seems unjustified.

Anonymous said...

We could have this divisive turd as town manager. Wasn't that Mr. Marzelli's scheme? These people are behaving like Klan members.

Anonymous said...

Isn't Marzelli the one who sent his tenants out to collect signs on private property because he thought it was a town by-law?

Anonymous said...

Mr. & Mrs. Marzelli were going around collecting NO CASINO signs. They might have "used" some of their tenants, but I know they themselves were "collecting" them. I was told by a very good source, when caught red handed with the signs,someone from CFO went to the Police Station to report this, the policeman at the desk called Mrs. Marzelli to come down to the Station with the signs or they would send a member of CFO (w/officer) to thier house to collect them. She, along w/a tenant of theirs,(of course), brought them to the station. My guess is they didn't bring ALL the signs!! So be it, what goes around comes around!
For the record, I am anonymous due to my family member living in one of their apts. They will take it out on them if I expose my name. This comment is due to "past history" w/them. Future renters beware! He owns YOU when you are his renter, if you play by HIS opinions,(not rule, he does own the apt.s), your golden, if not, watch out!! Bottom line, renting from him, YOU CAN'T HAVE YOUR OPINIONS!!!!!! (some have learned just "yes" him to death).

Anonymous said...

Yes, BM sent a few of his tenants out to collect signs, under the guise that it was a by-law to remove them. But he knew better. He had been collecting "No Casino" signs for a couple months and got a little cocky 'cause he was getting away with it.
Unfortunately, BM presents himself as someone who is capable of rational debate. He's not a stupid man, and for the most part, is an affable, reasonable guy who would give you the shirt off his back. That disappears during debate.

In the absence of any real knowledge, BM can only discuss his opinion, which he dresses up and presents as fact. This is why he takes it personal when you disagree. When you respond with anything that conflicts with his views and/or proves him wrong, BM resorts to fabrication to make his point. He believes that should end the discussion. If it doesn't, BM gets mad and goes into attack mode yelling, screaming, and physically getting in your face. Tough luck for those who thought they were in for a healthy debate. Most just end it and walk away, leaving BM with the mistaken impression that he won the argument. In this respect, he "wins" every time.

That scenario has repeated itself many times for many years. Its' how he's earned his reputation of bully, intimidator, pompous windbag, blowhard.

If nothing else, the events of the past couple days should put BM & AB on notice. If it doesn't, then let me spell it out for them:
Our community is made up of rational, intelligent and informed people who will not be told what to believe, or intimidated by your underhanded tactics.

You'll both need to find yourselves a new hobby.

PS - Many apologies to Nancy Yeatts. Please don't think the irrational criticisms of this man and his equally ignorant cohort represents the opinion of this community.

"It is much easier to be critical than to be correct"
-Disraeli

Anonymous said...

After listening to the comments, I have reached the conclusion that not only does cream rise to the top, but poop floats as well.
There seems to be a lot of poop floating in the 'boro.
Ms. Yeatts will have to identify the source and, being a reasonable, rational person, will distinguish between the cream and the poop.
BM's comments do not represent those of the majority. How appropriate are his initials?

Anonymous said...

Just when a few of us thought the show couldn't get worse, guess what? It did!

After listening to BM blast away with misinformation about signs having to be posted every 50 feet, who owns the proposed casino property and other nonsense, and complaining about local news coverage, my God! Does it get any worse?

Bill, I really like you, but you might consider improving your reading comprehension. And you just might consider doing some research before you bloviate.

My Dad, my uncles, my nephews, my brothers, my grandparents, my greatgrandparents, my friends have fought for their country. And my friends' parents were Holocaust survivors.

I've read the history.

It's clearly a novelty to Mr. Bond, but not something he is capable of discussing in an informative manner.

Another hour and a half of my life wasted! I won't do that again soon!

One of the interesting things I think that I've finally figured out about the 'boro is that folks just aren't accustomed to being criticized.

That seems to be the major fluff on the toxic sites.

The flying monkeys controlled the town.

Wayne Perkins tolerated no dissent and ignored those who stood at the podium to ask a question or speak.
So much for democracy, Wayne! Another great epitaph.

Marsha Brunelle ignored people or gavelled them to silence. What a buffoon she is! Keep that gavel away from her!!!

The rest of the Flying Monkeys are followers, of little threat.

But criticize them? OMG! They certainly fly into a frenzy!

The Flying Monkeys criticize the editorials in the Gazette, but clearly dissent is missing from the town.

It's about time people were able to openly disagree and respect those differences of opinion.

Not so for the Flying Monkeys.

Anonymous said...

Pam raised good points about the Flying Monkeys, but things won't change until town employees are outnumbered at the polls and town meetings.
Taxpayers clearly are not watching the meetings or they would have seen Mr. Spataro spend the entire meeting text messaging. At another meeting, he ate his supper.
Mr. Bond has allowed the question section of the meeting, but nothing of substance ever comes. Questions are never answered. Issues are never addressed. Everyone pretends this is such a novel idea, but other towns have done it for years. And he fails to make any plans for the future. It's just more of the same with a board (or should I say bored?) of deadheads.
Nothing will improve until the bored are replaced.

Anonymous said...

If you read topix enough (no I dont post there) you figure out who is posting. Its the same few venomous characters who were posting on MQ's rats' nest, except for a few new addition preferring anonymity like Tony Lawrence, Wally Glendye and a certain wife who considers herself a private citizens but twitters on the radio and conducts public meetings. Lincoln Andrews posts sometimes but his comments stand out as they did on middleborocasino and nemasket. there are a few others I wont out just now, but anonymous youre not.
MQ's posts stand out and he posts repeatedly at odd hours because he hasnt figured out what else to do. He claimed on his forum that he was reading a book and wrote a review that was copied from the jacket cover.
Bogo posts under numerous anonymous names because hes board and isnt getting enough attention. Anyone remember that bogo was opposed to the casino but didnt get enough ego stroking from the antis? All you had to do was tell him how intelleeeectual he was and he was yours for the taking.
And BM wont discuss the casino because he has a steel trap mind that remains closed once it is made up - right or wrong.
A sad group that never considered the facts but formed there opinions.
Some have grossly missed the point of most issues.
AB thinks the anniversary of TMFH would overshadow Rockland Industries that he had ignored in the past until the impact clobbered him over the head.
And Glendye a newcomer who never paid attention to his own neighborhood thnks this is the sole issue in town 'dont bother me, I cant multitask!'
In the podcast that was recently done and posted on bellicose bumpkin, Rich Young made several comments that are pretty defining. They were 1. having always treated others with respect regardless of differing opinions 2. each of us personally has control only over our own behavior.
We need to protest when BM calls someone a dictator, especially after the conduct of Wayne Perkins, Marsha Brunelle and Adam Bond (and those other 2 members who nodded there consent). And we need to protest other things as well.
But should we continue to wallow in the manure and ignore that this bored board is not planning for the future, not resolving past issues, not doing anything? What about the Charter changes? What about the website? How many people need to complain about the website? what about all of those other things? As Mr. Young pointed out, there are 100 other problems, other than the casino about which we ALL agree. Those problems are ignored. The single rallying cry of the few is CASINO. The casino will never come so maybe we should solve those other problems.

Gladys Kravitz said...

Dear Catherine,

Bridgewater has several citizens groups which lobby for change. And things seem to be getting better through the active involvement of residents on numerous issues. I've suggested many times that Middleboro needs something similar - and not just the Middleboro Friends group which is mysteriously made up of pro-casino folks.

As far as the casino never coming - I don't believe it will - but that doesn't mean it won't come if you do nothing. Forces in Middleboro are still actively doing their darndest to bring a casino to town.

So get together with your fellow residents and make Middleboro a better place. But seriously, don't blink on the casino issue.

Thanks,
Gladys

Anonymous said...

It is disillusioning to see how cruel and soul-less a small mob can be. Unfortunately, there doesn't seem to be the slightest bit of remorse for the havoc Topix posters have wrought. All I can say is "Illegitimati non carborandum". No casino!

Anonymous said...

Dear Ms. Kravitz,
Your presence has continued to elevate the casino opposition to great heights and you have done so with amazing humor and grace, even as you have been attacked. For that you are to be admired and congratulated.
You are in the prayers of a large group who recognize the personal price you have paid.
Your reply was appreciated and I have watched as the group being formed in the 'boro is forming primarily around the casino supporters.
The continued willingness of my circle of friends to take any necessary action to oppose legalization of casino gambling in the state remains at the ready.
I appreciate that you published my comment and was disappointed that a group of thugs chose to sabotage my intent.
Allow me to offer some recent experience.
When I changed jobs, I found myself supervising large groups of men of varying levels of education and age.
Having extensive experience supervising departments composed mostly of women, allowed the opportunity for insight not offered in the management textbooks, nor from my peers.
Contrasting the two groups, I found men: more petty; more gossipy; more inclined to use emotional diversions to support discussions; more willing to denigrate colleagues to gain superiority; more willing to resort to name calling or juveniles complaints; far less professional; far less able to adhere to the issue under discussion without resorting to emotional tactics; generally misunderstanding constructive criticism.
I was able to improve departmental performance and efficiencies by stroking the fragile male ego, praising lackluster performance, and received the monetary rewards and bonuses.
My observations are offered only as an explanation of the comments in another forum that are misguided.
For some reason, most American men fail to achieve any level of emotional maturity.
(I married a man raised in another culture.)
My apologies that my comments, not intended to provoke the adolescent responses did so.
At some point, each of us needs to take that good hard look in the mirror.

Gladys Kravitz said...

Catherine,

Thank you for your prayers, kind words, and support. I truly appreciate (and need) them!

Ah yes, the male ego. I am familiar with it. Sadly, I am not much of a nurturer.

I was hesitant to print your original comment because I knew what some people would do with it. I stopped visiting the Topix message board, so I don't know what they're saying.

Buy does it matter? It doesn't take much to set some people off. If I said the sky is blue, there would probably be a posting within minutes calling me a liar because sometimes the sky is gray, or white, or dark blue. And that this only serves to prove that a casino is a good thing.

Some months ago I learned that one of the people posting disparaging comments about me on various message boards had been incarcerated, in the previous decade, for a violent crime, and has a history of other violent acts. This is public information and anyone willing to do the legwork, can access it.

So, as you can imagine, this has added an extra layer of stress to an already stressful situation. I haven't said anything about it because I'm not fighting a casino to hurt people. In fact the opposite is true. But I have my limits.

I've tried to focus on the players whose greed, deception and giant egos have left us with this mess to clean up. Some people understand that, others don't.

I keep thinking that eventually they'll grow bored and go do something else, preferably more productive with their lives, but as you've reminded me, some people are just petty and juvenile. Holding a mirror to these people's faces, they would still see nothing wrong.

Thanks again,
Gladys

Anonymous said...

Whoa! Catherine! Now you've really riled the Flying Monkeys who can't see past their noses, but I couldn't agree more. I've never seen a fact originate from the supporters.

Anonymous said...

In view of the Spectrum Report, Ms Yeatts' leadership to ensure that surrounding communities are adequately protected and compensated is that much more important.
As we all know, the Agreement fails to compensate Middleboro for the impacts and the town must depend on the generosity of the state for additional funds that should have been included.
I'm not seeing any discussion of that sort from supporters.
Instead of the continual attacks, some numbers are sorely needed about what their projections are.
What is that new school going to cost? How will Plympton, Carver, Lakeville absorb those new students? Where are those employees going to live?
We have been fortunate that CFO has raised all of the issues that remain largely ignored.

Anonymous said...

Look what Milford is supposedly looking at.
http://www.milforddailynews.com/news/x1892834555/Casino-could-be-coming-to-Milford
$50 million!

Middleboro - $11 million, tops.
What a joke?

Anonymous said...

Yo! Lola!
Wayne Perkins said tell the Donald
"Sold!" but oops! Talk to Glenn the Marshall first. (but keep me in the loop!)

Anonymous said...

Listening to Mr. Bond's broadcasts is a frustrating exercise in futility. He's made his loyalties painfully obvious and is continuing to alienate a large segment of his constituency. Instead of making concerted efforts to reconcile the division, which would be a mature approach, he continues to snicker when his procasino guests take pot shots at people holding opposing views. Does he realize that Middleboro is burning down while he fiddles? If he doesn't then he is not as intelligent as those who elected him assumed. Anyone can obtain an education. However an advanced degree doesn't necessarily impart common sense. Well he'd better smarten up before the local landscape becomes Ground Zero.

Anonymous said...

I rather doubt that this radio show has much of a following considering it airs in the middle of a work day on an obscure station. Thank goodness--it's such an embarassment.

Anonymous said...

Funny, as I read the blog and all comments, twice, I noticed something, it starts out with BM, and, (as usual), easily slids right into ending up about Adam Bond!! What does that tell you???
The root of all evil?
I apologize to his parents, (I am a parent also), but this is what came to mind.

Anonymous said...

The irrational posters had a field day with this one and the marshmallow man, but no one noticed that Wally Glendye posted additional photos of the sacred secret ceremony and got 2 'tribe' members who appear to be joking around. He also posted photos of the Mashpee powwow and labeled MQ and wife as Middleboro residents. Did they move?
It's always interesting who questions the credibility of others especially after Wally posted that he had never posted on a certain forum before when in fact he had.
Does anyone want to look up the letters that Wally wrote that were printed in the Middleboro Gazette, both of which were ..... misstatements?
So much for veracity from the truthseekers.

Anonymous said...

An enraged friend emailed me a copy of the following post on Topix this morning. It concerns me because of the ferocity of the hate of this very blatant threat. Although anonymous posting don't seem to be prosecutable, if such threats are followed through, some are in for a rude awakening because that will cross the line in terms of the DA's internet investigations and follow through prosecution.

"Actually, it looks like people are just giving Mary Tufts and Jessie Powell a little sample of their own medicine - seems as if they don't like the taste of it very much. Since they've ignored repeated polite requests to take down all the nasty personal insults and vicious trash they've posted; it looks like people have resorted to the eye for an eye, tooth for a tooth strategy. It's a pity it has to be that way.
Actually, I think the posters on this forum have been too kind. These are public figures - PLEASE - use their full names! They use full names on their blogs. Speaking of blogs, I think more people should follow Raven's example and start their own blogs. I think Mary Tufts really needs to experience what it feels like to have some stranger trashing her on the Internet day after day. Let Mary's husband and kids be embarrassed to see their family name trashed all over the Internet. Let's let Mary see what it's like to explain her kind of crap to children, family members and her husbands co-workers. They think it's okay to go after Limo's business, Bond's career, Marsh's husband's career, etc. etc ? Fine! Maybe people should go after their businesses. Mary is already claiming that people did, when no one has done anything of the kind. The anti's are the ones who've pulled that kind of crap. Maybe people should give them a real taste of their own medicine? Maybe they need to see what it feels like to have complaints filed against their businesses? Maybe they need to have their professional reputations trashed online? Is that what it will take for these evil, mean spirited people to have some compassion and consideration for others? Looks like.
If these bloggers think Topix has been tough on them, I don't think they've seen anything, yet. "

Whoever wrote that is pushing the envelope and will find himself/herself subject to possible litigation. Anonymous posts who make tangible threats can be traced and posters subpoened and subjected to charges if the authorities seek information through the Topix corporate office.

Gladys Kravitz said...

Dear Anon 3:57, Yikes! Please provide the topix post date, time, post id, town, etc. I assure you I will follow up.

Gladys

Gladys Kravitz said...

Let's break this down...

"Actually, it looks like people are just giving Mary Tufts and Jessie Powell a little sample of their own medicine - seems as if they don't like the taste of it very much.

Really? I talk about people's kids? Insist they are romantically involved with public figures?

Since they've ignored repeated polite requests to take down all the nasty personal insults and vicious trash they've posted;

Oh, like the one that's on file with down at the Bridgewater Police Station?

it looks like people have resorted to the eye for an eye, tooth for a tooth strategy. It's a pity it has to be that way.

So... We can expect some interesting and educational blogs based on research and often combined with video and a sound track? And we'll start to see some concern about the environment, and rises in addiction and crime?

Actually, I think the posters on this forum have been too kind.

Really? Who brought you up? A family of dog fighting enthusiasts??

These are public figures - PLEASE - use their full names! They use full names on their blogs.

Noun: private citizen
A citizen who does not hold any official or public position


Speaking of blogs, I think more people should follow Raven's example and start their own blogs.

Awesome, because who can get enough of Clark, CT???

I think Mary Tufts really needs to experience what it feels like to have some stranger trashing her on the Internet day after day.

Definitely, because I haven't had enough of that for over a year...

Let Mary's husband and kids be embarrassed to see their family name trashed all over the Internet.

Oh like that photo contest??

Let's let Mary see what it's like to explain her kind of crap to children, family members and her husbands co-workers.

Actually, they all know, and as you can imagine, it makes them all think very highly of the pro-casino community.

They think it's okay to go after Limo's business,

When did I do that? I didn't sign his name and business to his comments. He did that. Are you saying he's an adult but not responsible for his actions? Are you saying he is somehow impaired?

Bond's career,

Which he directly tied to his public office and his promotion of a casino?

Marsh's husband's career,

Oh, do you mean that one time last year when I praised his 'steel trap mind'?

etc. etc ? Fine! Maybe people should go after their businesses.

Is that like "Maybe people should..." or do you really mean, (drool, froth, drool) "please please yes yes hurry hurry do it do it now now!"

Mary is already claiming that people did, when no one has done anything of the kind.

Actually, they really have. And look, they're doing it again right now!

The anti's are the ones who've pulled that kind of crap.

Hmmm... I also seem to remember some "crap" about someone's laptop information being leaked to the press... Can't blame us for that!"

Maybe people should give them a real taste of their own medicine?

Ah yes, the truth can be a bitter pill to swallow!

Maybe they need to see what it feels like to have complaints filed against their businesses?

I have never filed a complaint against anyone's business.

Maybe they need to have their professional reputations trashed online?

What professional reputation? Fighting casinos has become my full time job.

Is that what it will take for these evil, mean spirited people to have some compassion and consideration for others?

Um... did you just read your own writing?? 'Cuz I'm thinking you might not have a real hold on this whole "compassion and consideration" thing.

Looks like.
If these bloggers think Topix has been tough on them, I don't think they've seen anything, yet. "

I've seen plenty. That's why I'm here.

Anonymous said...

Gladys, yet again you have framed the discussion well.
Since I don't have time to waste reading toxic, I appreciate that you posted the comments of others that are clearly threats.
Although I am reluctance to waste much time responding to each item, there are several that seem noteworthy.

I found this comment interesting:
Since they've ignored repeated polite requests to take down all the nasty personal insults and vicious trash they've posted...

They think it's okay to go after Limo's business,

No one has requested politely that I remove comments from my blog. If the poster is referring to comments that I posted that originated from Michael Quish, I won't re-hash the convoluted fantasies of Mr. Quish offered in his own words, that blog can certainly be made public again to document the flawed memories of some.

Mr. Quish has a history of apologizing, behaving himself respectfully for a short period, and then reverting to his prior bullying behavior, complete with threats.

Mr. Quish was treated respectfully on nemasket and was incapable of treating others with the same respect, hence was booted, as was Rick McNair.

Maybe they need to see what it feels like to have complaints filed against their businesses?

No one has filed complaints against anyone's business.
Instead of posting an inflammatory and vague comment, specifics would be appreciated. Who filed what complaint?

Bond's career,

Mr. Bond seems to have done an adequate job of advertising his career without assistance from others.

To all the Toxic Truth Seekers, it is rather interesting that you have ignored the following:
Mr. Bond posted in TWO locations that I had filed a complaint with the JDL regarding his Holocaust/Nazi comments, in addition to stating that I had accused him of anti-semitism.

Just isn't so.

While the Toxic Truth Seekers might find this matter trivial, the Board of Bar Overseers in the Commonwealth enforces the ethical standards for practicing attorneys. To maintain a standard above reproach, attorneys are held to a higher standard of conduct, but posting lies in public forums and circulating deliberate lies is clearly an ethical violation for which Mr. Bond would be reprimanded by the Board.

Because Middleboro still remains somewhat 'small town,' comments made by others always seem to travel widely. There is much that has been said about me that is untrue.


Speaking of blogs, I think more people should follow Raven's example and start their own blogs.

Is it Raven now? Or have we reverted to bogofree or bratbird?
Rick McNair chased posters off the nemasket discussion forum for unknown reasons and failed to abide by the moderator's requests. When he takes the time to research and sticks to a subject, he's an invaluable source of information and insight. For unknown reasons, he began to attack and challenge everything that was posted by others. One item that comes quickly to mind was a comment regarding 50,000 cars per day travelling through Middleboro to reach the proposed Mega Casino. He became argumentative about the number until CarverChick posted a link to the Casino Advisory Committee's Report that contained that figure. It was also stated on several occassions by Glenn Marshall at public meetings. I know because I attended several and heard that number repeated.

So, Toxic Truth Seekers, it certainly seems as if Truth is NOT what is sought.

I can't help but agree with my dear friend and fellow blogger, Gladys, that I can't wait to see your facts and your research that refute what has been posted. What projections do you have for the school populations of Middleboro and of surrounding towns? Where will casino employees live? How do you plan to handle the large numbers of employees who speak other languages? What will those other languages be? Where is the water supposed to come from? What will the impact of the Brockton Power Plant using 1,600,000 gallons per day be for the region?

How about let's begin with a wage comparison that compares Middleboro with comparable towns? How about the most recent DOR Report that itemizes 351 municipalities and compares TOWN RESIDENTS PER TOWN EMPLOYEE?
How about some of the education statistics from DOE? Has anyone reviewed them? How about a comparison of municipal bond ratings? Why is Raynham with all of the commercial development rated the same as Middleboro? What's the deal? How did Cristello earn a triple A bond rating for Hingham? How much did he save taxpayers? (BTW-What do you think of the Hingham Town Web Site?) What are the borrowing caps? What will the impact of the increased cost of fuel/energy be on municipalities? How about school transportation? Have you read the information about what actions other states are taking to address the issue? And Middleboro? or your town? What are you doing for yourself and your neighbor to reduce energy costs?

I can't wait for your responses on toxic.

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